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Black Friday (revisited)

Alright, now that my nerves have calmed a bit…

To those who do not know (I’ll assume most do, given this is primarily a poker blog), the three largest poker sites in the U.S. have been locked (FTP/UB + AP/Pokerstars) to U.S. players. On Friday, the FBI showed up on the home pages of those three sites. It looked like this:

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Since this time, Stars has blocked all U.S. players and FTP has it so you need to reinstall/redl on a a new euro server. Both sites have moved to .eu and have pulled out of the U.S. market. They assure us that our money is safe and secure, but only time will tell when we can actually withdraw our funds.

Here is a court document:

SEEN HERE

And here is another short blog post on the subject:

NOAHSD BLOG ENTRY HERE

So, yeah. This day obviously sucked alot. There have been multiple ‘black fridays’ for the poker industry the past few years. Only time will tell what happens this time. The main thread for the news happened on twoplustwo-

(ultra ultra long thread, probably not worth it…but here is the inception of the news)-

twoplustwo huge thread on poker lock

Yet another summarization of the events: (original source here)

✖ In the day’s least surprising news, those US land-based casino giants are all disavowing the online poker deals they struck just weeks ago. Wynn Resorts says it has “terminated” its deal with PokerStars, while Fertitta Interactive says its deal with Full Tilt was always contingent on the poker company getting a US gaming license, and so the deal has thus “expired.” We take that definition as having nothing to do with anything time-related, but more to do with the ‘breathing its last’ connotation.

✖ Full Tilt’s CEO Raymond Bitar has released a statement saying he is “surprised and disappointed by the government’s decision to bring these charges,” although he is looking forward “to my exoneration.” In the meantime, Full Tilt recognizes that it “must suspend ‘real money’ play in the US until this case is resolved.”

✖ PokerStars has also suspended US real money play and changed the default URL on its associated sites to PokerStars.eu. Money transfers have also been disabled. ESPN’s Andrew Feldman is speculating that the affected poker sites will shut down across the globe within 48 hours.

✖ Chad Elie, the payment processing figure (and former Intabill staffer) arrested in Nevada, appeared in US Magistrate Court in Las Vegas on Friday, and was subsequently released on his own recognizance (and, presumably, that of his FBI shadow) with a hearing scheduled in a New York court for this Tuesday (19th).

✖ Richard Perkins, the former Nevada politician and current PokerStars lobbyist, claims the push to pass the PokerStars-sponsored intrastate poker legislation AB 258 will soldier on despite the day’s events, as the bill “is not just about this company, it is about the policy of this state.”

✖ The Poker Players Alliance released a statement saying, in part, they were “shocked” by the DoJ’s actions. The PPA was good enough to note that “online poker is not a crime” but that’s not exactly what the DoJ is alleging here.

✖ Former Intabill head Daniel Tzvetkoff – who handled hundreds of millions for PokerStars, Full Tilt and others, plus allegedly funneling millions more into his own pockets — is being fingered as the canary singing loudest into DoJ ears. (Australia’s Courier Mail has a feature detailing the payment processing boy-wonder/Icarus and his subsequent fall from grace.)

✖ The scope of the internal company emails the DoJ has in its possession appears formidable. Our current personal favorite is the Sept. 29, 2009 message in which John Campos, the SunFirst Bank vice-chairman arrested in Utah on Friday, refers to a lawyer warning Campos of the risks involved in processing online gambling payments as a “wet blanket.”

✖ Among the details revealed in the emails is the wide variety of e-commerce websites used by the poker sites to handle transactions, including sites purporting to sell flowers, pet supplies, golf clubs, bicycles, clothing and/or jewelry. There was also a Green2YourGreen site that claimed to be a “direct sales” business in which consumers purchased enviro-friendly household products for resale to other customers in return for commissions. The site allegedly went as far as to include bogus ‘testimonials’ from satisfied customers re the green products. A DoJ sting apparently had two gamblers send queries to these phony co’s customer service re the charges that appeared on their bank statements, only to receive replies sent from PokerStars’ customer service.

✖ Worse, these emails directly indicate the poker companies’ complicity in these schemes, with PokerStars documents admitting that they were employing company names that “strongly imply the transaction has nothing to do with PokerStars” and that they used whatever names “the processor can get approved by the bank.”

✖ Is anyone buying the DoJ claim that these poker companies took in “one-third or more of the funds deposited by gamblers” via the rake? Makes the French regulated market look positively generous.

✖ It remains to be seen how foreign governments will react to the DoJ’s call for arrests of the indicted figures living outside the US, and for assets abroad to be seized.

✖ Finally, a big thumbs-down to FBI Assistant Director-in-Charge Janice K. Fedarcyk, who decided to pepper her statement to the press with poker-related terminology. To wit: “These defendants … tried to stack the deck. They … bet the house that they could continue their scheme, and they lost.” Epic humor fail, Jan

And yet more content on the same site:

Something that got lost in Friday’s media storm — New Jersey Sen. Ray Lesniak announced that his state’s online poker referendum bill is to be introduced on Friday, April 29. As if on cue, legal analyst Dan Abrams appeared on ABC News to voice the opinion that, while he believes that a regulated US online poker market is “inevitable,’ Friday’s indictments mean that in the short term, “it’s going to be very tough to legalize it.”

✖ The Las Vegas Review-Journal is reporting that Nevada State Sen. Greg Brower is calling for federal and state investigations into PokerStars’ lobbying efforts. Brower was incensed to learn that PokerStars had launched a political action committee that doled out $272k in campaign contributions to 68 candidates in last year’s mid-term elections. Brower said he found it “troubling” that “a foreign company which has been charged with operating a criminal enterprise could play such a large role in Nevada campaigns.” Brower intends to discuss the matter with both Nevada authorities and the Department of Justice “to determine whether federal and state investigations into PokerStars’ activities in Nevada are warranted.”

✖ The Cereus Network sites mentioned in Friday’s indictment have followed PokerStars’ lead by switching to .eu domains, while Full Tilt is now operating from FullTiltPoker.co.uk. All of which begs the question why, in this day and age, would an online poker company still have its domain name registered with a US registrar? Clearly, when the DoJ comes knocking on GoDaddy’s door, their CEO is simply going to hand over UB’s domain so he can more quickly get back to shooting elephants for sport.

Barcelona resident Bryce Vincent Geoffrey is a Canadian-licensed lawyer believed to own one of the few remaining US-facing poker companies.
✖ Cereus may be taking a more confrontational stance than Stars or Tilt, i.e. not committing to unconditionally walking away from the US market. Registered US players are reportedly still being welcomed onto real money tables at AP and UB, but all deposits, withdrawals and transfers have been ‘temporarily’ suspended while the sites “work on a resolution.” Are they emboldened by the fact that, of all the site’s indicted principals, AP founder Scott Tom faces only the less serious UIGEA violation charges? Indeed, a UB player received an email from the site’s support staff stating that there is “nothing to worry about.” Balls of steel, or fools rushing in where angels fear to tread? Watch and learn…

✖ John Campos, the indicted vice-chairman of Utah’s SunFirst Bank, is scheduled to appear in a St. George court Monday at 1:30pm. Meanwhile, SunFirst’s lawyer Loren Weiss says Campos had no authority to make deals on behalf of the bank. Weiss told local media outlet The Spectrum that the indictment “doesn’t affect the bank at all.” In fact, Weiss’ perspective is that the indictment portrays SunFirst as a victim. As for the $3.4m that was allegedly invested in SunFirst by defendant Chad Elie and “Elie’s Partner” that gave them a 30% stake in the bank, Weiss claims SunFirst “didn’t enter into any agreement like that. The sale of stock is something that requires board action. Nothing like that happened.” Weiss also maintains that SunFirst never had a direct relationship with any of the accused poker companies. “The only contact they had was with third-party payment processors. The third-party payment processors have many customers, none of whom the bank has any relationship with.”

✖ Full Tilt’s mega-high roller Onyx Cup poker series, which was scheduled to start May 11 in Las Vegas, has been cancelled. The fate of PokerStars’ North American Poker Tour appears dubious. Meanwhile, ESPN.com has stripped all PokerStars advertising from its poker page.

✖ Now that Fertitta Interactive has announced that its deal with Full Tilt has ‘expired,’ the likelihood of Full Tilt being allowed back into the fold of approved Ultimate Fighting Championship sponsors has effectively been choked out. FullTiltPoker.net had remained an active sponsor of individual UFC fighters, as well as a main sponsor of MMA outfit Strikeforce (which was purchased by the UFC on March 12). Ken Pavia of MMA Agents believes the indictment could “severely impact fighters’ sponsor revenue, which traditionally matched their show pay for our televised clients. I would venture to say the poker industry is equal to apparel industry as the No. 1 sponsor of fighters outside the UFC.” The only comment a Strikeforce rep was willing to give MMAJunkie was that they are “looking into the situation specifically how it relates to our deal.”

✖ Forum posters have been lamenting the lack of indictment commentary from many of PokerStars’ sponsored pros. Indeed, a quick read of a lot of PokerStars pro players’ Twitter feeds would have led one to believe that it was business as usual. Finally, on Saturday, Daniel Negreanu explained the radio silence: “Not ignoring #BlackFriday and as much as I’d love to discuss it, I’ve been advised not to for now. As soon as I can, I’ll add my two cents.” Two cents? Wow, Danny’s been reduced to playing for microstakes… This really is a big deal.

✖ Speaking of, many observers have questioned why some poker pros who reportedly hold ownership stakes in the indicted companies, such as Full Tilt’s Chris ‘Jesus’ Ferguson, were not included in Black Friday’s rogues’ gallery. For the record, we don’t think even the DoJ would go that far — it’s one thing to pick on faceless execs, quite another to go after quasi-celebrity figures. After all, most prosecutors (especially the ones that pursue cases guaranteed to generate media headlines) view their current position purely as a stepping stone to elected office. This may explain why DoJ figures at the heart of this case have been so keen to stress that Black Friday’s charges relate to fraud and money laundering, i.e. it’s not a direct assault on the game of poker itself, which most sane observers agree is an utterly benign form of entertainment. These attorneys have already pissed off one voting bloc (the nation’s poker players). No sense pissing off all libertarians, too.

Finally, one last link on ESPN that postulates the aftereffects of the poker lock for U.S. players-

HERE on ESPN

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black friday

online poker being locked by the government. do your research if you want to learn more, i’m fucking pissed.

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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The Future of Poker Players

I’ve been thinking alot about the dynamics of the poker world and how it relates to the ‘real’ world. Part of this is due to me thinking about my own future. How are we poker players going to end up in life? What are we all going to look like in 5 years? 10 years? Longer?

The life span for most (serious)online professional players is fairly small. I say that with a small sample size in mind, but given that I’ve seen most everything from the online poker boom to now, it’s the only sample we have. With each passing year, more and more of my friends decide to give up the game (at least in a professional sense). There are many factors in this decision, some of which can be highlighted HERE. So with that in mind, I thought about what the future holds for us. After re-reading some of this, alot of this is unorganized and rambling, but hopefully you can find something of use in it.

The poker world is (obviously) very different than a majority of other professions. Perhaps the last comparable instance was the tech boom in the 90s. Taken from the pool of (successful) poker players, you have people that are (obviously not all of these are going to be absolutes, but in a general sense):

-(Generally) fairly intelligent. Gifted in psychology, statistics, risk management.
-Young and successful for their age in terms of money.
-The ability to make alot of money in a short amount of time. Hourly wages are astronomical when compared to most other jobs. This, in turn, will be a problem (more on this later).
-Many have a “I don’t give a F*** attitude”

The U.S. has a fairly standard model for most college graduates: Finish college, get a job in corporate America, get married, buy a house, retire, good game. And there are many other countries that have the same mindset. This path is deemed ‘normal’ and the vast majority of college graduates will do this.

But poker players are different. Due to our early monetary success and insane hourly wages, ‘normal’ work seems different and foreign. It’s something that is very hard to relate to. My friends were conversing the other night, discussing different pay. Different pay scales of $10 an hour compared to $13.50 an hour and such. All I could think about was “it’s only a few bucks more, who cares?” This wasn’t arrogance by any means, it’s just the way I think. And I think this is probably a problem that alot of poker players have- little regard for money. Obviously I can see the value of $3.50x 8 hours x 5 days a week/etc etc etc…but whatever.

Poker playing is a strange lifestyle. Even some of my poker friends who don’t make a ton of money like they used to still spend frivolously, with a sort of ‘whatever’ mentality. It’s something that is very different than the penny pinching Jew mentality that some college kids have. Sometimes that mentality stays with a person their entire life. Unfortunately, that’s not something that alot of poker players have, is good spending mentalities. It’s just another one of those ‘whatever’ attitudes that makes poker players different than others.

I myself have had a few jobs in my life, none of which were full time. I’m sure there are many poker players who haven’t had any jobs in their life (and why should they?). I’m not so sure it’s something we can truly relate to. Many of my friends who work real jobs continually complain about ‘corporate bullshit’ and what have you. The idea is foreign to me. Working a general job and being stuck there doesn’t seem like a very good idea for me. I’d rather have a chance to make some real money (ie. broke or millionaire) and I’m willing to take that risk.

But hey, what do I know? I haven’t had a ‘real’ job yet. So maybe these are just some false delusions. What I don’t want to be is 45 years old in corporate America sucking my boss’s dick day in and out, wishing I could do something better. I’d rather make jack shit as a cave touring guide or something of that nature for less money.

I think that alot of poker players have a false sense of reality in that they think they aren’t ever going to work a real job in their life. A friend who I exchanged some emails with wrote: “Furthermore, I would never have that 40 hour a week job; not because of the money but because I rather have total freedom and sleep in a hammock between two trees on a beach in Hawaii then spend my time working in corporate america.” Now, he does much, much better than I do at poker…but I’m not so sure his ideas are so close to reality. I’m sure ANYONE would rather sit on a hammock in Hawaii than work in corporate. That being said, it’s not always something we can control.

I’m positive I’ll be doing a job sometime in my life. I just hope it is doing something I love.

Where are we all going to be in the not so distant future? I can see many of us going into semi related fields, such as finance. There are alot of comparable skills between the two professions. I have some friends that are in (or finished) law school and medical school. Others are trying the gaming industry. As many of us knew from the start, poker was never going to be a permanent thing (unless you’re Tom Dwan or Patrick Antonious). It is simply a small step that aided us ahead of our peers for a short time period.

I wonder how many of us will get back on track to that American dream though? How many of us will end up in Corporate? Finance? Medicine? I guess only the future will tell. If this blog is still running in 5 years, hopefully I can remember to check back on it to update it.

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Killer Instinct

“If I had that much money, I’d just quit my job and cash out.”

Well, with that attitude, you’ll most likely never make that type of money to begin with. I guess you can win the lotto or something…

There are multiple reasons why Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerberg, Phil Ivey, Tom Dwan, (insert rich person here) all still work. I am postulating that money isn’t the sole reason. All of the above have enough to live comfortably without working another day in their life. Why do these people do it?

Perhaps they like the challenge. They want to be the best; they want their product to be the best. They want to win all the money in the world; they have a vision unfulfilled.

When people say “Oh, x person has so much money, I’d just cash it all out…why risk it?”, risk is what got them there to begin with. Like all profitable enterprises, calculated risk (as seen in poker) is present at nearly all stages.

Someone asked me a while back why I don’t just cash out my money. To begin, I don’t even have alot to begin with. So that just goes to show how risk intolerant alot of people are. Secondly, if you had a job that pays $xx(x) an hour, would you give that up? No, of course not. (There are obviously other factors to consider when thinking about poker as a job, mainly the stress levels involved. But I’m not going to quit because I’m scared I’m going to ‘lose it all’, so to speak).

The killer instinct, the mentality to improve and be the best: That is something that I wish I had. Obviously these guys are all fortunate and lucky to get to where they are today. It was also a ton of hard work, a passion in what their goal was. Being “smart” (however you wish to define this word) can only take you so far- hard work will get you there.

Hard work and the desire to “be the best I can be” are seen every year in the poker world. Don’t think that just because you’re starting late on something ( re: poker) that it is impossible to climb the ranks given today’s games. A person like jungleman12 is relatively ‘new’ the scene and still climbed up very fast. Same with IHATEJUICE, the FL nosebleed player. Remember that hard work is the key to any success.

Take a risk. Take a chance. Do work.

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PLO hand

Weird PLO hand-

3 handed, 100bb stacks. Villain is on another table and seems to be semi competent. He’s opened every button, never open limped, and seems to be TAGgy.

I don’t have alot of history with him and haven’t played many hands…but this hand comes up-

He opens BTN $7, SB (donk) folds, I reraise to $22 A25K , he calls.

Flop ($45): Q 7 3
I bet 30, He calls.

($105) Turn: T

My play?

My thought process:
PF- I think this might be a tad marginal, but we’re 3- handed and my hand plays alright. It might be a bit aggressive, but I’m fine with that. I expect to take it down on the flop a fair amount (since at this limit, players aren’t going to be playing back super super light).

Flop- I have a pair and some backdoor equity. I think this is a fine spot to bet. I think it’s an easy b/f, as I’m not looking that great against something like AQK or something on the flop. At these limits, I don’t believe he’d 4-bet such a hand either. I do have okay equity against something like QJT or whatever, and if were to just pot raise that, meh…I feel as if many players will simply flat call on the flop, since he knows that AAxx is never folding (and he’s a dog to that).

Turn- I think it’s best to just pot/call it off. I have plenty of equity, I balance my range a bit and I think it’s better than c/c-ing or c/r-ing. I think with deeper stacks it becomes a tad more interesting, since I might not be able to bet/call it depending on stacks. That said, 100bb deep, I think this seems like a no brainer pot call.

What if my equity was a tad marginalized, though? Does my plan change? make it just a pure flush draw, maybe it’s a bet/fold now? I don’t know.

Either way, I decided to take the worst option- I check/called. I think this option is mehhh and while I was at the table I was like “eh, not bad” but after reflecting, this seems quite poor. Anyways, I binked a J on the river and check/called his jam when he had 33.

Not sure why I decided to share this hand. Thought I could add a little more poker content, I know I’ve been slacking.

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